D5 of The Reid technique Mafia Game

[halrob64]

Spelling Strike Wolf down wards EW in there but I might be seeing too much into it.
EW made a half claim he knew Charle had not killed so was that prior knowledge, a night visit or that he had carried out a killing?

[Charle]

If EW is a tracker, then he will know that I visited you. And you know that I know you are Town.

[halrob64]

So where do you see Devante in this Charle?

[SoN!c]

With EW's vote I am probably on L-2. So let me claim before i got hammered.

I am the Town Cop, hence my suspicion on Devon as there seems to be a lot of investigating roles claimed. N1 i investigated Halrob and the verdict came back his is Town. I hoped that I could do it another night, but I guess I am now on the chopping block. If doc can save me, let's hope Mafia do not have blockers. I think it is best for town that I revealed this, before I got hammered.

EW unvoted on Sun Nov 09. Official vote count has you on L-3.

[Charle]

Oh ok, sorry Sonic. It was going South anyway so my claim is still fine i guess.

[Devante]

Unvote Charlie Vote LC

[SoN!c]

Official vote count:


Devante: (2) Loose Canon, Hjelp
Charle: (1) Ragian
Devon: (1) Charle
Loose Canon: (1) Devante
Extreme Ways: (1) Halrob




With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch!

[Devon99]

Funny enough, I actually believe Devante. My focus has now changed. Kingm claimed cop alternative nights. Devon had the chance to defend that by either tell us what was the verdict on N1, or letting Doctor know to protect him on N2 so we can get some info out of that. Nothing happened and I am going back to our suspicion D1 that Devon is guilty, it can be Mafia or 3P, but not town. Maybe he has a Mafia cop role of some sort?

Unvote

Vote Devon

So presumably, you fought pretty hard to Lynch Kingm D1 right? After all you just claimed full cop, so there could not be an alternate night cop right?

[YouTube]https://youtu.be/Pf0_Be5PPPU[/YouTube]

[halrob64]

Kingm did claim town cop Devon so as sub do you continue with that or has your role changed?

Devon99 » Tue Nov 11, 2025 12:35 pm

Charle wrote:
Funny enough, I actually believe Devante. My focus has now changed. Kingm claimed cop alternative nights. Devon had the chance to defend that by either tell us what was the verdict on N1, or letting Doctor know to protect him on N2 so we can get some info out of that. Nothing happened and I am going back to our suspicion D1 that Devon is guilty, it can be Mafia or 3P, but not town. Maybe he has a Mafia cop role of some sort?

Unvote

Vote Devon

So presumably, you fought pretty hard to Lynch Kingm D1 right? After all you just claimed full cop, so there could not be an alternate night cop right?

[YouTube]https://youtu.be/Pf0_Be5PPPU[/YouTube]

[hjelp]

With EW's vote I am probably on L-2. So let me claim before i got hammered.

I am the Town Cop, hence my suspicion on Devon as there seems to be a lot of investigating roles claimed. N1 i investigated Halrob and the verdict came back his is Town. I hoped that I could do it another night, but I guess I am now on the chopping block. If doc can save me, let's hope Mafia do not have blockers. I think it is best for town that I revealed this, before I got hammered.

compared to

Full claim then: 50% Vanilla Town, 50% Cop, I will not give away if its odd or even day I can investigate, since that will make it really easy to block if scum has a roleblocker.
I also hope that we town have more investigation power than this, but I have a feeling that maybe nobody is 100% vanilla, and everyone at least have some kind of power, that's at least my guess.

And to any other cops, if you have the ability to check me N1, then do so and then have me lynched D2 if I'm lying.

Devon hasn't given any report from N1. Also, Kingm claimed "... odd or even day I can investigate ...".
Does town have two Cops?
What day-roles are there in Mafia-games?

[Ragian]

With EW's vote I am probably on L-2. So let me claim before i got hammered.

I am the Town Cop, hence my suspicion on Devon as there seems to be a lot of investigating roles claimed. N1 i investigated Halrob and the verdict came back his is Town. I hoped that I could do it another night, but I guess I am now on the chopping block. If doc can save me, let's hope Mafia do not have blockers. I think it is best for town that I revealed this, before I got hammered.

Wait a second...someone claims cop and you, as town cop, don't vote for them? And also, why did you claim before L-2? Did you just skim EW's unvote and Sonic's vote count?

[halrob64]

Ragian » Tue Nov 11, 2025 1:30 pm

Charle wrote:
With EW's vote I am probably on L-2. So let me claim before i got hammered.

I am the Town Cop, hence my suspicion on Devon as there seems to be a lot of investigating roles claimed. N1 i investigated Halrob and the verdict came back his is Town. I hoped that I could do it another night, but I guess I am now on the chopping block. If doc can save me, let's hope Mafia do not have blockers. I think it is best for town that I revealed this, before I got hammered.

Wait a second...someone claims cop and you, as town cop, don't vote for them? And also, why did you claim before L-2? Did you just skim EW's unvote and Sonic's vote count?

I think there are two issues Ragian, I was surprised at Charle declaring quickly but I do believe him at the moment the other issue is Devon's deflection regarding Kingms claim regarding part time town cop.
I would have investigated Kingm if I had the power to do so I must admit.
If Kingm is genuine then I get that there could be two part time cops using alterate night actions.

[Ragian]

With most others mods, I'd say that two cops is inconceivable. However, with the existence of a framer, it could make sense for Son!c to put in two cops. I guess...

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EW, why did you track Charle?

[halrob64]

Ragian » Tue Nov 11, 2025 1:56 pm

With most others mods, I'd say that two cops is inconceivable. However, with the existence of a framer, it could make sense for Son!c to put in two cops. I guess...

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EW, why did you track Charle?

There may not be two cops, its down to Kingms claim of being part time, he was also very quick to declare, that's why I'm more curious of Devon at the moment and the response about his information "might" be helpful to town but did not meet the criteria. Cryptic but also seems to be part of the Sonic game style.

[Charle]

With EW's vote I am probably on L-2. So let me claim before i got hammered.

I am the Town Cop, hence my suspicion on Devon as there seems to be a lot of investigating roles claimed. N1 i investigated Halrob and the verdict came back his is Town. I hoped that I could do it another night, but I guess I am now on the chopping block. If doc can save me, let's hope Mafia do not have blockers. I think it is best for town that I revealed this, before I got hammered.

Wait a second...someone claims cop and you, as town cop, don't vote for them? And also, why did you claim before L-2? Did you just skim EW's unvote and Sonic's vote count?

Yes, i didn't see EW's unvote, but so be it. I am cop, Devon is scum, they tried to claim cop 50% but i do not believe that, he is caught out. Buddy, you started this.

[Darin44]

I was going to go with Ragian. But Charles claimed so not voting maybe later.

fped

[Darin44]

I thank LC is way out there

Devon need to say a little more about 50% cop

[Loose Canon]

Charle may be right that Devon is a baddun, but it seems to me the way he gets there is flawed.
Charle and me could actually both be right - Devon could be Mafia and Devante could be 3P.

The current evidence on Devon it seems to me is that Charle claims cop and Devon claimed 50% cop so therefore Devon must be lying.

There can be all kinds of cop, including cops that get things completely the wrong way round. I just don't know how common they are.
I sorta don't think Charle is fake claiming cop.
Charle assumes EW tracked him to Halrob, I don't assume that at all particularly as we know Kongming was a 3 shot tracker.
The innocence of Halrob isn't guaranteed in fact there is a line of argument that says out of 2 cops the one believing they are 100% cop is more likely to get false results.

Devante has voted all over the place, and arguably has tried everything to divert attention, so I don't see how Charle can currently think Devon is more likely to be a baddun than Devante.

If it was just about feel of who might be mafia, or process of elimination Devon is likely mafia I'd agree with Charle.

I think Charle is town, I think EW is town, I'm edging Ragian as town, I'm firm on Devante as 3P, as for everyone else for me its a matter of degree of suspicion.

So yes Devon is under suspicion but currently for me less so than Devante.
I will ask you guys this on Devante - Sonic didn't say he had to claim, just that a condition had been met.
Devante hasn't as far as I can see claimed anything - but seems to me has leant into everything that might get him off the hook.
Is there any reason to think that Devante is innocent or in EWs words has any utility for town?

I accuse Charle of overeagerness (in fact case closed as far as overeagerness is concerned - he claimed prematurely)

I'm sticking with Devante D2 because I put to you guys that it is more solid than Devon at the present time.

[halrob64]

not sure how you get false results if you have asked the question about someone and get a response innocent. That means the md is lying and that is not going to happen.
Devante may well be guilty of what you say. At the same time Devon is highly suspect so I think a challenge is needed as I do think Devon and Dev are linked.
Also you have EW in the mix claiming knowledge of Charle's movements.
I think you have a lot of clarity Loose but I also think we need open minds, also where is Darin in the mix?

[halrob64]

Charle assumes EW tracked him to Halrob, I don't assume that at all particularly as we know Kongming was a 3 shot tracker.

That was in the context that EW claimed that he knew Charle had not killed on N1 so either EW is taking a flyer or he is a tracker. Kongming was town tracker.
If Dev is town it seems very strange to have restrictions made on being able to claim.
Devon is not backing Kingms claim so far to being cop 50% of the time.
Loose I have not seen you categorically claim your town so you may still be the lord of chaos.
I think Charle's claim is good.
If we go into N2 with the current suspects then its going to be carnage for town.
So, I think Dev has strong knowledge for good or for bad, I'm sorry Dev but I can go along with a lynching to take away doubt, if that resonates badly on town so be it.
At least then we can focus on the next suspect Devon.
So I'm willing to back your play Loose if you are going to go through with it and others support your position.
Lets use the next 5/6 days to try to hold the town folk together and come out the otherside of N2
Unvote EW

[hjelp]

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There may not be two cops, its down to Kingms claim of being part time, he was also very quick to declare, that's why I'm more curious of Devon at the moment and the response about his information "might" be helpful to town but did not meet the criteria. Cryptic but also seems to be part of the Sonic game style.

Anyone not killing a town "might" be helpful to town ?

[Loose Canon]

I think Charle's claim is good too.
I don't think he is a hairbrained guy who either on his own or under the influence of a mafia teammate would make up what he's claimed and make up the play he's made.
I've looked at cop roles in previous games though and there are variants that are town but give wrong results either totally ( or I think sometimes)
And there's all the stuff in Sonic's flavour or hints that talk about false confessions - so why not false results?
So I don't think you are in the clear Halrob my friend.

As for me claiming town, yes I claim town.
What does that prove?

I'm not sure if there are 1 or 2 mafia left.
I'm thinking Devon could so easily be mafia even if there's just 1.
If there's 2 then house odds approach 50%.

So I get the temptation to either vote Devon or steer away from voting Devante.
That's what a 3p Devante would want

Fpd by hjelp

[Ragian]

I'm going to unvote for now, waiting for EW. I think, if EW can corroborate Charle, that Devon needs to go.

[SoN!c]

Official vote count:


Devante: (2) Loose Canon, Hjelp
Devon: (1) Charle
Loose Canon: (1) Devante




With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch!

[halrob64]

And there's all the stuff in Sonic's flavour or hints that talk about false confessions - so why not false results?
So I don't think you are in the clear Halrob my friend.

False results hahahahaha Loose Loose thank goodness you are not the town cop you would not even be given a gun you would be so useless. Now I'm doubting everything you are saying in your posts and I think you are the lord of chaos for sure and Devante is certainly on to something!