Indigo League Mafia/RPG Final Scene

[Samlen]

Well that was an eventful night. Unless I find something linking someone to the now dead mafia members from rereading, I would also be fine with a mitch lynch. In respect to Dakky's claim, I did a quick look online and it seems gary's most common starter pokemon was squirtle. Though Dakky said he was day recruited so maybe he could be any pokemon.

[HotShot53]

After getting home from vacation late sunday, I was planning to read through and come to a conclusion after work monday... but the day ended before then. Thankfully everyone made the right decision and got the scum. Along with another scum dead last night, things are looking good so far.

I still think the bandwagon on mitch had scum on it trying to get the easy lynch... and samlen posting that he's willing to try to lynch mitch again seems very scummy to me so I will vote samlen

[Samlen]

After getting home from vacation late sunday, I was planning to read through and come to a conclusion after work monday... but the day ended before then. Thankfully everyone made the right decision and got the scum. Along with another scum dead last night, things are looking good so far.

I still think the bandwagon on mitch had scum on it trying to get the easy lynch... and samlen posting that he's willing to try to lynch mitch again seems very scummy to me so I will vote samlen

I've never had good experiences in ignoring scummy behavior simply because "it's their normal playstyle". Mitch's constant bandwagoning is very scummy, so I mentioned that I would willing to lynch him today if I could not find anyone linked to the dead scum. I'm slightly curious as to why you made no mention of doomyoshi, despite having advocated a mitch lynch literally the post before mine.

[Talapus]

First off, change the title of the thread. Hard to know game started back up.

Also, interesting fact there Mod...if you fail to return responses to night actions it makes it hard to realize the game has started back up as well. I mean I understand as most of as are pokemon but hard to understand where the hell you stand after a night like that. I get it, I'd ignore me too if I was you, but if you want active participation it is something you could do to assist

I should have some time tomorrow to figure out my favorite vote candidate. MM died in the night and the other one I suspected died as well so need to find something I feel comfortable getting behind.

[Ragian]

After getting home from vacation late sunday, I was planning to read through and come to a conclusion after work monday... but the day ended before then. Thankfully everyone made the right decision and got the scum. Along with another scum dead last night, things are looking good so far.

I still think the bandwagon on mitch had scum on it trying to get the easy lynch... and samlen posting that he's willing to try to lynch mitch again seems very scummy to me so I will vote samlen

So why Samlen over Doom?

...and no Merry Christmas back? Screw you guys

[BuJaber]

Nah dakky is not a pokemon. I never bought it from the start. Let's not get fooled.

[DoomYoshi]

I'm trying to figure out who Gary is. I really don't like how Skoffin flipped scum after playing identical to masket (apart from the whole "I'm a trainer" thing). Either Skoffin is a really good mafia player or the trainers are so close to scum as to be indistinguishable. nagerous is my first guess here. Skittles is TR? Unfortunately with another night of recruits, almost anyone can be TR now.

[madmitch]

First of all Merry Christmas to all and I hope you all have a safe and wonderful holiday. Now I can hardly believe that I made it to today . So it looks like so far we lost 5 of my wild pokemon brothers and 1 trainer and his pokemon but at least we got rid of two scum. I also got stronger over night but that don't make me any smarter because I have not made my mind up who to go after next.

[nagerous]

Do you not think there is a possibility that the mafia can recruit? I would say this is more likely than Giovanni and Persian being in the game and three players seems underpowered in a game this size..

Masket has confirmed 'trainers' can catch wild Pokemon in the night phase. However I still think the focus should be on catching team rocket 'james' obviously and we can worry about recruited wild Pokemon later. However this is something we shouldn't rule out.

We also have dakky who claims to be recruited.. I think we need to put some more pressure on him this day phase, I for one would be keen to know the character name of the trainer who recruited him if he is willing to reveal

Of course there is a possibility, and so there probably is at least 1, maybe 2 extra people who are scum. I don't think they're going to jump out at us saying they were recruited though, because if they are it just further divides the pro-town survivors.

I just stated Giovanni and Persian because 1) the former is the head of Team Rocket and a powerful trainer in the show, 2) The latter is a powerful Pokemon that is owned by the former. I think they should also be on our radar at all times, cause they would be the two who are leading team rocket.

I'm not quite sure why you put 'James' like that - we can already see that there's Jesse and Meowth. While factions do cause the town to split up and possibly gain new role and win conditions (?), team Rocket should always be the number 1 priority.

I have been wondering if Bill as a character is in this game. A mad scientist figure who really opened up collecting data on wild Pokemon (at least in the game/anime).

Dakky just revealing what faction he is in puts him at a disadvantage IMO. For all we know, he and his faction could halfway through their win condition as Team Ash was just wiped out (from what we can guess). A quick google search will tell you what Pokemon Dakky is and also confirms a thought I've had about how Mandy implemented evolution in this game. From all we know, Dakky could've been instructed to attack and thus gain an XP, and everyone who is a Pokemon knows what will happen next.

I just meant James is the first priority and I agree with you, James being in the game is a cert and is our focus. I was just saying we can't rule out the threat of wild pokemon going from good guys to scum and this is something we cannot discount.

I am not sure why you think Bill is in the game and this comment is a little off-topic, he only appears in one episode I think - anyone collecting data would be Prof Oak and I think if anyone he would be the one in the game, I don't think there are enough roles even left in the game considering the high volumes of wild pokemons lurking around.

Also, a quick google search won't reveal what pokemon he is, if you remember Dakky said his trainer picked a random pokemon from the list at the beginning to be his 'starter' pokemon

Guess you will find it soon ... so.... I will tell you now... to cut the crap... I'm Gary's pokemon... lynch me if you think that is smarter than lynching Team Rocket or their pokemon.

Totally called this earlier in the game

After getting home from vacation late sunday, I was planning to read through and come to a conclusion after work monday... but the day ended before then. Thankfully everyone made the right decision and got the scum. Along with another scum dead last night, things are looking good so far.

I still think the bandwagon on mitch had scum on it trying to get the easy lynch... and samlen posting that he's willing to try to lynch mitch again seems very scummy to me so I will vote samlen

I've never had good experiences in ignoring scummy behavior simply because "it's their normal playstyle". Mitch's constant bandwagoning is very scummy, so I mentioned that I would willing to lynch him today if I could not find anyone linked to the dead scum. I'm slightly curious as to why you made no mention of doomyoshi, despite having advocated a mitch lynch literally the post before mine.

Mitch really isn't a good lynch, he's made many comments in the game which have made it pretty clear to those playing he is a wild pokemon even if his comments aren't particularly helpful to be honest I barely knew you were in the game but you are actually top of my lynch choices for day 2 right now:

Still unconvinced about the fircoal case so my vote is staying (plus I believe their roleclaim). Everything else is just people griping at each other over nonsensical stuff. I could unvote and and revote to "end the day quicker" but I see no point in lynching someone I do not believe is scum.

What did you believe about his roleclaim? As myself and then exile in the hammer pointed out it was suspicious that his claim was a rare strong pokemon that didn't evolve - it wasn't something that sat right with me and something that I feel stronger about even now. Every pokemon we've seen so far has been a starter one.

[nagerous]

starter as in level 1 first evolution form that can evolve

[dakky21]

Nah dakky is not a pokemon. I never bought it from the start. Let's not get fooled.

Look, you see no one is following your boring case on me. From the D1 scene you can learn Gary is in the game, and from the N1 scene you can see Pikachu was Ash's starting Pokemon. So by using logic you can deduct I am really Gary's pokemon and unless someone counter claims, the case on me is invalid so start looking for the real scum please.

On the other hand as I already said, you were on every wagon so far and are now trying to keep my case active so you don't have to wagon onto another case, while not seeing the obvious. Looks like you're making a case, but instead you didn't say anything about anyone else last 20 pages or so. Seems like cleverly avoiding the discussion.

vote bujaber

[DoomYoshi]

Skittles brought up Bill because he is trying to set up possible fake claims.

vote Jessie/Skittles

[nagerous]

Skittles brought up Bill because he is trying to set up possible fake claims.

vote Jessie/Skittles

Except he already claimed he was a wild Pokemon

[madmitch]

@ Bujaber what makes you think Dakky is not Gary's pokemon ? I believe he could be ,we already had 2 elec, 2 fire and 2 ground pokemons and Gary's pokemon is a water type so it might be true.

[The1exile]

What a fascinating scene, with a few surprises. this jumps out at me:

Poliwag was confused: “I thought that you Charmaders die if your tail is extinguished.”

“That is true, we do”, said Serbia. His eyes, Poliwag noticed, had a slightly violet glow. Serbia walked pass him and started wading into the river, “Now please excuse me, I have to wash my tail.”

Possibly mewtwo in this game? Maybe as a serial killer or just a massively overstated wild pokemon, perhaps in a PGO role. Although I agree our first order of business should be to hunt down James.

The best place to start would seem to be the mitch bandwagon - not least because several of them are dead - but I'm also interested in hearing from Nark since he didn't expect to survive the night.

Finally, merry christmas all

[dakky21]

Possibly mewtwo in this game? Maybe as a serial killer or just a massively overstated wild pokemon, perhaps in a PGO role.

Are you implying there is a mystery pokemon in the game or 3rd party one, not being wild?
Because it sounds like you are.
And if you are, then you know more than wild pokemon know, which would mean that either you were caught by a trainer, or you are a trainer yourself. Only trainers and their pokemons know about mystery pokemon, not wild ones.

And since Ash is out, Gary being mine, I find you as Team Rocket trainer or pokemon...

I'll keep my vote on BuJaber for now as I believe you could be "just" pokemon trying to protect him, let's see what others have to say.

[BuJaber]

See there's your problem dakky. You know I'm right, sadly I have to prove it to everyone else somehow.

I don't want to repeat myself, as I've already quoted a bunch of incriminating posts of yours. So let's get to new stuff:

You were aggressively going after mitch and now you don't seem to want to lynch him. You were accusing me of joining fircoal "bandwagon" like it's who a scum would vote for, which clearly he was the right lynch for town. You've been trying to muddy-up my image when all I've done is share my insight. Your actions are just not the actions of someone who is anti-TR. And you're proving it now by voting for me. If you think I'm an idiot and I'm wrong about you, you've already said so; but voting me when I've shown everyone that I'm a wild pokemon is just not good for town. If you were truly a wild pokemon like the rest of us before you got recruited then there's no reason to claim that you were recruited. That whole thing feels like an act to me. But you might ask "well why isn't Gary calling me out?" ... Think about it ..if you were gary, would you do that? Claiming is dangerous in this game as it has been proven by the death of MM. I don't see why anyone would, when they could just as easily target you some other way.

For the record: I really hope whoever killed wing was TR. Yeah wing is harsh, but I felt that there was enough evidence to prove that he's wild and thus not our enemy. He was active and his style was starting arguments. Arguments lead to slip-ups.

[Samlen]

What did you believe about his roleclaim? As myself and then exile in the hammer pointed out it was suspicious that his claim was a rare strong pokemon that didn't evolve - it wasn't something that sat right with me and something that I feel stronger about even now. Every pokemon we've seen so far has been a starter one.

I thought leveling up and evolving were different things so I figured a pokemon without an evolution could pop up in this game. Given how fircoal and the night went, it looks like I was wrong to think that.

[dakky21]

See there's your problem dakky. You know I'm right, sadly I have to prove it to everyone else somehow.

You can only prove that you're scum which you did pretty much successfully by saying:

I don't want to repeat myself, as I've already quoted a bunch of incriminating posts of yours. So let's get to new stuff:

You were aggressively going after mitch and now you don't seem to want to lynch him.

I still want to lynch mitch, but you changed my mind. You are a "better" target if you want it spelled that way.

You were accusing me of joining fircoal "bandwagon" like it's who a scum would vote for, which clearly he was the right lynch for town. You've been trying to muddy-up my image when all I've done is share my insight. Your actions are just not the actions of someone who is anti-TR. And you're proving it now by voting for me. If you think I'm an idiot and I'm wrong about you, you've already said so; but voting me when I've shown everyone that I'm a wild pokemon is just not good for town. If you were truly a wild pokemon like the rest of us before you got recruited then there's no reason to claim that you were recruited. That whole thing feels like an act to me.

Can we stop the bullsh*t here? If I was acting like other pokemons, I'd act like I did. If YOU were acting like wild pokemon, you wouldn't wagon on each case.

But you might ask "well why isn't Gary calling me out?" ... Think about it ..if you were gary, would you do that? Claiming is dangerous in this game as it has been proven by the death of MM. I don't see why anyone would, when they could just as easily target you some other way.

The thing you don't understand or are trying to mis-understand is - I know who Gary is and I am taking the bullet for him! As you might have noticed, if the trainer dies, pokemon die with them... but no... you didn't notice that as well. You just skimmed through the posts and are voting for anyone just to get an easy lynch. I understand that is normal for scum, but you're too obvious to be true.

So much skimming from you Bujaber and so much wagons and so much not needed posts - I'm accusing you of joining fircoal wagon??? no, I'm accusing you of joining all other wagons before that one...

I am like 90% sure BuJaber isn't town now.

[strike wolf]

So first short of a counter claim, i dont feel Dakky is a good targ3t as we know Gary is in the game.

2. Psychic isn't a wild pokemon type available in the game so if that is indeed mew two than he would have to be considered different to wild.

3. Exile should have realized psychic isn't a wild pokemon type.

4. If Sam and Doom really wantEd Mitch dead as thinking he's scum. Why not kill him over night? Or are you suggesting that you tried to and failed? Of the two, based solely on the mitch part of the intrigue, I would lean Doom scum over Sam.

5. Two's death was heavily implied as the result of being attacked by a Pokemon of a type with an advantage against electricity. Not as the result of his trainer dying.

6. Chus big mistake from my angle was questioning me on why I conside red wild pokemon town yet slipping that he was "trying to help town" while hinting that he was a wild pokemon. Something that already seemed sketchy without that. I am not convinced either way on whether all pokemon have evolutions or not as a perk.

7. Honestly surprised Masket was Ash at the end. I thought I had a good case for today involving defending Chu through vote count manipulation and Skoffin defending him and he had to screw it up by showing up as Ash.

[HotShot53]

After getting home from vacation late sunday, I was planning to read through and come to a conclusion after work monday... but the day ended before then. Thankfully everyone made the right decision and got the scum. Along with another scum dead last night, things are looking good so far.

I still think the bandwagon on mitch had scum on it trying to get the easy lynch... and samlen posting that he's willing to try to lynch mitch again seems very scummy to me so I will vote samlen

So why Samlen over Doom?

...and no Merry Christmas back? Screw you guys

I will add a FOS Doom, but I thought the bandwagonning onto a weak case was even worse than the initial suggestion. Plus, I thought doom was a little better day 1 than samlen was. (And I consider saying "I'll vote mitch again" to be basically the same as voting him, except a more scummy way of supporting something without actually getting behind it fully)

Hope everyone has a Merry Christmas!

[BuJaber]

“Pikachuuuuuuu!” he yelled and then, when nothing happened,”Pika?” (“Strike now, Master! Our moment is come!” “Master?”)
With a WHAM! His opponent landed the finishing blow and TWO was no more.

The Weird One (Ash's Pikachu) Level 1 (Electric Pokemon) has been killed.

Dakky, TWO didn't die because his trainer died. "His opponent landed the finishing blow". So are you claiming that Mandy told you after you got recruited that you will die if your trainer dies? Because I don't know where else you got it from, and you're saying that's one of things that makes me a scummy skimmer, so please help me out.

I don't know what the whole violet glow and washing his tail stuff is about serbia/charmander. It's a little strange. All the rest can be followed relatively easily. So no, I'm not the one skimming. As for your posts, I'm seeing what I'm seeing. It's not about skimming, honestly seems to me like you're being a hypocrite because it's your case against mine that is weak. But I congratulate you... You have clearly done an excellent job at convincing everyone else and I can't lynch you alone. If I am right and you do flip scum at the end, then you really deserve a lot of respect.
Also I've already replied to your "You've voted for every other bandwagon" reasoning (previous "posts" is a typo, should have been previous "votes"):

Dakky: Not sure why you're using "she" to talk about me, but it looks like a typo. Also those previous posts I had what I felt where legitimate cases on them and most of them can't be considered bandwagons. Marashu in particular there was only 1 vote on him. I just think you're scum. You are voting for mitch so I won't vote for mitch. Unvote Vote Fircoal. I am not afraid: people should already know where I stand, I was just optimistic that people will change their votes.. but nope...

I'm guessing posts will pick up again once the new year comes around. Until then there's not much to go on except day 1 voting and posts.

Looking at the final vote count from day 1:

Vote count:

Mitch (9) - legionnare, Samlen, Yoshi, Dakky, , Fircoal, Kwanton, Masket, TWO,

Talapus (1) - Skoffin

Fircoal (13) - Wing, Tim, Anark, Nagerous, Mitch, Serbia, new guy, Strike, Talapus, BuJaber, Aage, Mets, Exile

Skittles (1) - Hotshot

Wing (1) - Skittles

Nagerous (1) - Ragian

25 alive, 13 to lynch

Fircoal has been lynched. Scene should be coming with an hour. Feel free to talk until then.

Okay Masket and TWO would vote together that's expected -- they were trainer+pokemon combo. I don't know why Kwanton voted for mitch because kwanton has been with us wild pack defending tim and nark. I feel pretty confident that he's wild for now. Yoshi I've classified as a town trainer from some of his earlier posts; not sure it's wise to question that at the moment. That leaves legion, samlen, and dakky who seem pretty scummy right now after the fircoal slip. Obviously their vote is not enough but they'd be ones to look carefully towards. Now if dakky is telling the truth then one of them could be gary. The other possible gary candidate in my eyes would be Ragian, who seems to be playing like a townie would, but hasn't been acting like a wild pokemon, or sticking with us wilds in votes/arguments.

Skoffin flipped scum and seems to be the one that killed wing from the description. He was also the only one voting for talapus. That makes me lean town towards Tala. Also could mean that wing was on to some other scum (apart from fircoal).

Finally we have hotshot voting for skittles. I personally have skittles down as a wild pokemon, or a genius actor. So, hotshot are you going after a wild pokemon? Or are you a trainer thus couldn't see the signs that skittles is wild? Or did you see something incriminating that I missed?

As for the people who were on fircoal bandwagon. It seems like the people most likely to be scum sacrificing a buddy would be the people who joined the wagon later as opposed to sooner... mets and Exile in particular, maybe new guy and strike. Tala I already feel he's town because he was targeted by skoffin when there was no chance of a tala lynch.. Don't see why scum would start a case on their fellow scum just to pretend. That'd be a very extreme and risky strategy.

[Ragian]

I agree that Legion and Samlen don't look too townish at the moment. I'm less bothered with Doom. Nice breakdown, BuJ.

[mandalorian2298]

ANNOUNCEMENT:

Dear guys.

Firstly, I apologize for not posting this sooner.

I had some RL stuff to take care off and hopefully they have been. Normal modding will resume on Tuesday 27.12., when I'll be sending you your Night Action results. Sorry for the inconvinience.

P.S. I have already sent you all the results that are necessary for your Day stage play. The only thing left to send relate to Exp gained and some minor fluff.

[mandalorian2298]

Vote Count

dakky (1) - BuJaber

Samlen (1) - Hotshot

BuJaber (1) - dakky

Skittles (1) - DoomYoshi


With 17 alive it takes 9 to lynch.